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(It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). :). Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. It may come in other thicknesses too. The other two will give you more color. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? WebWhen refinishing oak floors, achieving a natural/untreated look can be challenging, particularly when color matching red and white oak in one area of the home. Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. Bona Naturale will also do this. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I asked him to bring natural finish tomorrow, Im torn between natural and classic. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? And you want to have 3 coats total. Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. Heres a close up. Thank you for suggesting Bona Mega One. Nice when a risk pays off . I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. 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Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. ! I also read you dont want to go too thin. Apply and wipe off excess. Stand up to the effects of UV on the oak over time, 3. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? The FASTEST curing water based products are Bona Traffic HD and Loba 2K Supra AT. new and it will be white oak common # 1. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. Don't disagree with you at all. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. It was not supportive or helpful. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. @J Sk did you use natural sealer or natural stain? I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. It was one coat of seal. In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". Yep. Im struggling with the same issue thanks! Im glad we didnt go darker. I hope they hold up to daily use. (Side shower walls are white). I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? P.P.S. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. It still should not come off. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. It doesn't make sense. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. I'm going to guess that's what the rep was trying to explain Of course your refinsher will apply a sample of EACH sealer on your freshly sanded floors so that you can DECIDE on the one you like (and will include a coat of the HD finish in the gloss level you have chosen.so that you can be 100% SURE of what you are choosing). Make sure your floor guys are real professionals and have experience using Bona. I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. The 'raw' look is a special look. There are MUCH better systems out there - especially in the water based finishes. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. The supplier may help you out. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. The fabricator was really nice and pulled whole Quartz slabs from his warehouse into the parking lot for me to see. Thanks. Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. Intense seal will cast yellowing. Maybe I will just buy new bathrobes for me and DH instead. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. The matte helps scratches blend. The pillow is from our sofa. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information It seems like we are the first to ask for the white oak with all the cabinet makers in our area. When was the last coat applied? En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. Yes. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? Look forward to more pictures. I used a custom color mix of about 2/3 mist and 1/3 white stain. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Granite and Quartzite have completely different make-ups. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. It is less than $0.85/sf. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. Also, Durasupreme got less than good reviews online. A red oak floor does not need sealant. The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet. And like all things "time is money". One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. @Bongo. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. (Just read the dog drool threads.) There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. It sounds like this does a really good job at what we are both after. The above comments are right. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. Get the third coat of sealer. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). (followed by Traffic HD). Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. How are you liking it so far? Ahhhh. Just just had solid white oak #2 flooring installed in my den. I like the stains that are made by the same company that makes the finish. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. Any help appreciated! I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. Those are STUNNING! I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? Your floors are as important as your roof. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Very patient. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. I still hope to get my dream kitchen. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. They are not the same color as my white oak, but shes happy with them. Yes, Trump2 I agree. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? That's when we discovered he had never used water basedand that was the light-bulb moment for everyone. I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). Forget prefinished. I think we found a good match. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. Here are some of my samples. Great photos and beautiful floors! Hi everyone! Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. Is there another more affordable option I can try? I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. My cabinets are a true white (forgot name of paint) and all of the Dekton with a white background was too gray. Its for a new build. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. I could only post one photo at a time.